Arsenal v Tottenham: recent games and trophies won by each club this century
By Bulldog Drummond
This is a difficult game to predict using our favoured home and away statistics, because Tottenham’s form has been affected by their sojourn at Wembley. Now back at Newhl anything could happen. Their home form might dip, as generally happens when teams move stadia (and this is effectively a move, given the ground has shifted along the road, and Tottenham have had quite a while playing at Wembley).
Here are their results thus far ahead of the derby…
Date | Game | Res | Score | Competition |
10 Aug 2019 | Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa | W | 3-1 | Premier League |
17 Aug 2019 | Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur | D | 2-2 | Premier League |
25 Aug 2019 | Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United | L | 0-1 | Premier League |
Last season in terms of away form they had the third best rec0rd in the league
1 | Manchester City | 19 | 14 | 2 | 3 | 38 | 11 | 27 | 44 |
2 | Liverpool | 19 | 13 | 5 | 1 | 34 | 12 | 22 | 44 |
3 | Tottenham Hotspur | 19 | 11 | 0 | 8 | 33 | 23 | 10 | 33 |
Although they outshone us in terms of away form, for the purposes of this forthcoming match we can note that our home form was better than Tottenham away.
1 | Manchester City | 19 | 18 | 0 | 1 | 57 | 12 | 45 | 54 |
2 | Liverpool | 19 | 17 | 2 | 0 | 55 | 10 | 45 | 53 |
3 | Arsenal | 19 | 14 | 3 | 2 | 42 | 16 | 26 | 45 |
On that simple basis we were on average scoring two goals a game and conceding one. But then Tottenham were also achieving those figures away from home.
So how come they lost eight away games in the league last season?
Basically what happened was that Tottenham ran into trouble at the end of last season when it came to away games. For although some of these were tough matches against other top six clubs, some were not so tough, as with the games against Southampton and Bournemouth.
Date | Game | Res | Score | Competition |
09 Mar | Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur | L | 2-1 | Premier League |
31 Mar | Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur | L | 2-1 | Premier League |
17 Apr | Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur | L | 4-3 | Champions Lge |
20 Apr | Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur | L | 1-0 | Premier League |
04 May | AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur | L | 1-0 | Premier League |
08 May | Ajax v Tottenham Hotspur | W | 2-3 | Champions Lge |
01 Jun | Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool (neutral) | L | 0-2 | Champions Lge |
Anyway, with Tottenham not winning the Champs League I thought it might be an idea to compare the honours of the two clubs achieved this century. I have left out the three Community Shield games because that seems a bit unfair to include, as you have to win the league or the FA Cup first, and Tottenham have not done that.
So being as fair as I can here is the comparison between the two clubs in terms of trophies won this century
Arsenal’s major trophies this century
Competition | Result | Season |
Premier League | Champions | 2001-02 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2001-02 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2002-03 |
Premier League | Champion | 2003-04 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2004-05 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2013-14 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2014-15 |
FA Cup | Winners | 2016-17 |
Tottenham this century
Football League Cup | Winners | 2007-08 |
Of course that can be a little unfair, because Tottenham have shown an improvement in form and have come runners’ up quite a lot of late, and this should be acknowledged. Being second isn’t a trophy, but it shows effort.
Tottenham’s runners’ up list this century
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2001-02 |
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2008-09 |
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2014-15 |
Premier League | Runner-up | 2016-17 |
UEFA Champions League | Runner-up | 2018-19 |
But then to balance the table here’s our runners’ up list –
Arsenal this century runners’ up
Premier League | Runner-up | 1999-2000 |
Premier League | Runner-up | 2000-01 |
FA Cup | Runner-up | 2000-01 |
Premier League | Runner-up | 2002-03 |
Premier League | Runner-up | 2004-05 |
UEFA Champions League | Runner-up | 2005-06 |
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2006-07 |
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2010-11 |
Premier League | Runner-up | 2015-16 |
Football League Cup | Runner-up | 2017-18 |
UEFA Europa League | Runner-up | 2018-19 |
So let us do a bit of totting up.
First the totting up of the Tots this century
- Trophies won: 1 league cup. Total one.
- Trophies runners’ up: 3 league cups, one Premier League, one Champions League. Total five.
Arsenal trophies this century
- Trophies won: 2 Premier League titles, 6 FA Cups. Total eight.
- Trophies runners’ up: 5 Premier League runners’ up, one FA Cup, one Champions League, three League Cups, one Europa League. Total 11.
So we seem to be winning, and doing some running up as well, although these titles and all but one of the runners’ up slots were achieved under the direction of Mr Wenger, so I guess under AAA rules they don’t count.
It has been suggested that the League Cup shouldn’t count as it is a bit of a diddly widdly cup, but I think it would be unfair to take away Tottenham’s only trophy of the 21st century, so I have left it in.
Original article: https://untold-arsenal.com/archives/76874