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Arsenal v Tottenham: recent games and trophies won by each club this century

By Bulldog Drummond

This is a difficult game to predict using our favoured home and away statistics, because Tottenham’s form has been affected by their sojourn at Wembley.  Now back at Newhl anything could happen.  Their home form might dip, as generally happens when teams move stadia (and this is effectively a move, given the ground has shifted along the road, and Tottenham have had quite a while playing at Wembley).

Here are their results thus far ahead of the derby…

Date Game Res Score Competition
10 Aug 2019 Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa W 3-1 Premier League
17 Aug 2019 Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur D 2-2 Premier League
25 Aug 2019 Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United L 0-1 Premier League

Last season in terms of away form they had the third best rec0rd in the league

1 Manchester City 19 14 2 3 38 11 27 44
2 Liverpool 19 13 5 1 34 12 22 44
3 Tottenham Hotspur 19 11 0 8 33 23 10 33

Although they outshone us in terms of away form, for the purposes of this forthcoming match we can note that our home form was better than Tottenham away.

1 Manchester City 19 18 0 1 57 12 45 54
2 Liverpool 19 17 2 0 55 10 45 53
3 Arsenal 19 14 3 2 42 16 26 45

On that simple basis we were on average scoring two goals a game and conceding one.  But then Tottenham were also achieving those figures away from home.

So how come they lost eight away games in the league last season?

Basically what happened was that Tottenham ran into trouble at the end of last season when it came to away games.  For although some of these were tough matches against other top six clubs, some were not so tough, as with the games against Southampton and Bournemouth.

Date Game Res Score Competition
09 Mar Southampton v Tottenham Hotspur L 2-1 Premier League
31 Mar Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur L 2-1 Premier League
17 Apr Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur L 4-3 Champions Lge
20 Apr Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur L 1-0 Premier League
04 May AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur L 1-0 Premier League
08 May Ajax v Tottenham Hotspur W 2-3 Champions Lge
01 Jun Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool (neutral) L 0-2 Champions Lge

Anyway, with Tottenham not winning the Champs League I thought it might be an idea to compare the honours of the two clubs achieved this century.  I have left out the three Community Shield games because that seems a bit unfair to include, as you have to win the league or the FA Cup first, and Tottenham have not done that.

So being as fair as I can here is the comparison between the two clubs in terms of trophies won this century

Arsenal’s major trophies this century

Competition Result Season
Premier League Champions 2001-02
FA Cup Winners 2001-02
FA Cup Winners 2002-03
Premier League Champion 2003-04
FA Cup Winners 2004-05
FA Cup Winners 2013-14
FA Cup Winners 2014-15
FA Cup Winners 2016-17

Tottenham this century

Football League Cup Winners 2007-08

Of course that can be a little unfair, because Tottenham have shown an improvement in form and have come runners’ up quite a lot of late, and this should be acknowledged.  Being second isn’t a trophy, but it shows effort.

Tottenham’s runners’ up list this century

Football League Cup Runner-up 2001-02
Football League Cup Runner-up 2008-09
Football League Cup Runner-up 2014-15
Premier League Runner-up 2016-17
UEFA Champions League Runner-up 2018-19

But then to balance the table here’s our runners’ up list –

Arsenal this century runners’ up

Premier League Runner-up 1999-2000
Premier League Runner-up 2000-01
FA Cup Runner-up 2000-01
Premier League Runner-up 2002-03
Premier League Runner-up 2004-05
UEFA Champions League Runner-up 2005-06
Football League Cup Runner-up 2006-07
Football League Cup Runner-up 2010-11
Premier League Runner-up 2015-16
Football League Cup Runner-up 2017-18
UEFA Europa League Runner-up 2018-19

So let us do a bit of totting up.

First the totting up of the Tots this century

  • Trophies won: 1 league cup.  Total one.
  • Trophies runners’ up: 3 league cups, one Premier League, one Champions League.  Total five.

Arsenal trophies this century

  • Trophies won: 2 Premier League titles, 6 FA Cups.  Total eight.
  • Trophies runners’ up: 5 Premier League runners’ up, one FA Cup, one Champions League, three League Cups, one Europa League.  Total 11.

So we seem to be winning, and doing some running up as well, although these titles and all but one of the runners’ up slots were achieved under the direction of Mr Wenger, so I guess under AAA rules they don’t count.

It has been suggested that the League Cup shouldn’t count as it is a bit of a diddly widdly cup, but I think it would be unfair to take away Tottenham’s only trophy of the 21st century, so I have left it in.

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